Mickie & John
Mickie, am I right in thinking that your idea will actually result in a registered id number for every deceased Quarterman on a comprehensive database? this appears an enormous task ! But as Alex Quarterman is carrying out a one named search he may have made a start on a database in a certain format already? Or you John may have a database which includes a list of all the Quartermans referred to within your book?
Alex are you on this mailing list?
Grave stones sometimes refer to the full name of the father or mother of the deceased, or even further by using words a stone could read for example 'great grand daughter of Valentine Quarterman'. This is a much easier way to record the Quarterman connection. Or leave a short family history with the local church records?
As John says there are complicated rules relating to the use of Coat of Arms of which I am not familiar with. I started to read a book about it but the complexity won! But if I remember correctly, it is the main hereditary line only who can officially use the exact replica of the original. (i.e. first male son of first male son) Younger sons or bastard children had to change the coat in someway a thick solid line going through the coat was sometimes used, or sometimes for daughters the original coat formed part of the new one i.e. one half or a quarter of it together with the coat of the family being married into.
I can order a book and find out more but will take me a few weeks to confirm details.
Victoria
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From: John S. Quarterman [mailto:jsq@matrix.net]
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Subject: Re: "Quarterman Seal/Coat of Arms Memorial Marker"
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Interesting idea in general.
A few points worth considering:
* Not just anyone is authorized to use a coat of arms.
There are courts in the U.K. that decide on such things.
While they don't have jurisdiction stateside, nonetheless
there's no point in offending our cousins across the pond
by not following protocol regarding something that originated
in Britain.
* The Midway Quartermans were Puritans. They never used a
coat of arms in this country and they probably would have
been very opposed to doing so.
* There is no generally-known Quarterman symbol stateside
that I know of other than the name itself, or the letter Q.
We discussed that issue briefly while looking for things
to put on the cover of the book we wrote. Nowhere in any
cemetery that I've ever seen do any other symbols appear
on gravestones to represent the Midway Quarterman family.
* There are several largish Quarterman families stateside
and many smaller ones. Most of them have not been proven
related to each other.
* You seem to be suggesting a Midway or Liberty County Quarterman
marker, rather than a general Quarterman marker. Although that
would have to be generalized somewhat, since there are many
relatives of our family who branched off in South Carolina.
>So, I was thinking that maybe we could come up with a bronzed, easily
>identifiable (copyrighted?) Quarterman seal, including the coat of arms that
>would be suitable to be place on qualifying headstones/monuments of
>Quarterman descendants around the world. I suppose having the qualifying
>number for each Quarterman on the seal would be out of the questions and too
>expensive. But, anyone interested could have it inscribed under the seal.
>But, the seal could include a small inscription of the web address at the
>bottom. These seals could be distributed (purchased) through the Website.
>This seal could guide cemetery searching historical/genealogical buffs to
>the website. Maybe placement and certification could done by the cemeteries
>with a mail back certificate.
Nowadays I don't run into many new uses of URLs, but I have to say that
that's one I haven't heard of before. Interesting.
> Sales could help to support the site.
This list and the web pages www.quarterman.org are purely volunteer.
No funds are collected or disbursed to support them. I pay the $30/year
domain registration fee out of my pocket, and I don't regret it.
The web pages do include an order form for the Quarterman book,
and all monies collected through that form go towards shipping
books that are ordered and paying down debts that were incurred in
printing the book.
>Then, for centuries to come (hopefully) there would be a easily recognisable
>tribute for our family tree and our heritage...What do you think? Has this
>been discussed? Any comments? Or, do I have too much time on my hands???
Interesting idea; needs work; keep after it and something may come of it.
>Mickie
John
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