Robin
Welcome,
Your news is very interesting!
How do you know that'The surname exists here because the Norman's invaded and ruled the south of what is now Italy about the same time as the conquest of England.(They
created Palermo as the capital of Sicily)'?
Your answer may be the key to establishing which of the following assumptions is more likely:
Assuming the Norman's coined the name in Italy too it would lead me to believe that either:
1) Prior to 11 Century we all came from the same Norman family (we need more info)
OR
2) Following the suggestion that Quarterman means four hands or mail fisted(as in chain mail/ armour). The title four hands could have been used to denote a particular
persons ability in battle, which could mean that one above is not true, but that the name acts as other surnames such as Baker or Butcher ?
Who knows?
Interesting? Keep in touch.
Victoria
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From: robin quarterman [mailto:robinquarterman@hotmail.com]
Sent: 11 July 2000 11:59
To: quarterman@matrix.net
Subject: ORIGINS OF QUARTERMAN
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Hi!
Greetings from an English Quarterman!
Have not long joined the list and think it is a very good idea.
Is anyone out there aware that the surname also exists in Italy?
It is QUATTROMANI, but it means the same and the coat of arms is virtually
identical to Quarterman.
There are quite a few Quattromani families in the States who are obviously
Italian immigrant descendents.In Italy today there are many, mostly centred
in the south- Calabria,Napoli,Rome etc.
The surname exists here because the Normans invaded and ruled the south of
what is now Italy about the same time as the conquest of England.(They
created Palermo as the capital of Sicily)
The name has also connections with Italian nobility and the island of Malta.
I am wondering whether the surname began, or had its origination in Norman
Italy?
I tend to think this because i cannot find any evidence that the knights
quatremaynes came over with the conquest of England, or where they came from
in Normandy.
Carter postulates Caen in Normandy, yet there is no trace of them ever
coming from this place.Infact the QUATREMAINES in France today (there does
not seem to be very many) live mostly around Paris and not one in Normandy.
In Italy there are many many Quattromani families, outnumbering the French
Quatremains.Also i know that Italian Normans DID settle in England and
Normandy in the 100 years after the conquest, even though the two kingdoms
were ruled separately and not part of an actual empire.
(The amphibious element of William's invasion was only made possible by the
advice and assistance of Italian Normans,who already had much experience of
it in the conquest of Sicily)
Lastly there is a family in Italy called 'Cinquemani' - meaning Five
hands!!!!!
(Although i don't think there is a serious connection here)
I shall endeavour to contact some of the French Quatremains and Italian
Quattromani in due course.
There is a QUATTROMANI ancestral website under construction on Malta net,
showing only the coat of arms at the moment.It can be accessed via most
genealogy sites.
I would be very interested in anybodies opinions regarding this theory.
Farewell,Robin.
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